Among the repulsions of atheism for me has been its drastic un-interestingness as an intellectual position. Where was the ingenuity, the ambiguity, the humanity of saying that the universe just happened to happen and that when we're dead we're dead?Plus, atheists have little imagination and creativity when it comes to atheism. For example, they have no plan when it comes to reversing the global decline of atheism. See: Global atheism is shrinking and Evolutionists, atheists and agnostics: What is your master plan to reverse your decline? and Atheism is rudderless and unseaworthy
In addition, Darwinism is BORING! See: How stale and boring is evolutionary indoctrination? Is the public fooled or are they suspicious? What is the trend?
Why is the young earth creationist Rachel McDonald so excited?
On the other hand, the excitement is raging when it comes to young earth creationism! And belief in biblical creation is exploding in the world. See: Global creationism
Consider this Twitter post from the Creation Ministries International's fan Rachel McDonald:
My books from CMI arrived! I'm so excited to read them all! @creationnews wahoo!
— Rachel McDonald (@McRachelRachel) January 9, 2013
Now that my atheist and evolutionist friends is unadulterated excitement! The excitement is raging within young earth creationism!
Rachel McDonald: Rockn' Twitter Creationist
She rocks in the tree tops all day long
Hoppin' and a-boppin' and singing her song
All the little birdies on Creationism Street
Love to hear the robin go tweet tweet tweet
Rockin' robin, tweet tweet tweet
Rockin' robin' tweet tweetly-tweet
Blow rockin' robin
'Cause we're really gonna rock tonight
The Jackson 5 - Rockin' Robin
Other resources
Atheism, agnosticism and humanism: Godless religions
Refuting evolution
Darwinism is false and biblical creation belief is valid
Evidence for Christianity
More evidence for Christianity
Did Jesus rise from the dead? by Michael Horner
Question Evolution! Campaign resources and other resources
Question Evolution! Campaign
15 questions for evolutionists
Responses to the 15 Questions: part 1 - Questions 1-3
Responses to the 15 Questions: part 2 - Questions 4–8
Responses to the 15 Questions: part 2 - Questions 9-15
Creation Ministries International Question Evolution! Videos
someone's opinion if something is boring or interesting is just that, an opinion. Not an undeniable truth. Also only intellectually limited people would believe in one thing over something else because they found it more interesting or exciting.
ReplyDeleteI find Harry potter and Lord of the Rings more exciting than the historical account of the British civil war. However I do not go around claiming that we should all be cowering in fear from lord Voldermort and the Orcs approaching onslaught.
Luke Manning,
DeleteYou are being illogical and practicing the fallacy of exclusion. See: http://onegoodmove.org/fallacy/exclus.htm
In the "Other resources" section of this blog post, I offered resources which refute atheism and evolution soundly. In the same section, I offered resources on why Christianity and biblical creation belief are true.
Luke, are you willing to have a debate centered around the 15 questions for evolutionists (see: http://creation.com/15-questions )
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Excuse me, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone who has seen this is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
DeleteLauren,
DeleteSuch a vague comment could be posted at any blog. Please elaborate and defend your position.
Second, are you an evolutionist? If so, are you willing to have a debate centered around the 15 questions for evolutionists (see: http://creation.com/15-questions )
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Wow, she was so excited, she took maybe two minutes to tweet about it! Holy cow, evolution just cannot survive that!
ReplyDeleteMaryland,
DeleteA few points:
1. Twitter has a stringer character limit in terms of posting and I am guessing you are aware of this.
2. Brevity in terms of declaring something does not mean you are less emotional about a topic. For example, one of the most memorable lines of the Bible is "Jesus wept".
3. Luke Manning,
You are being illogical and practicing the fallacy of exclusion. See: http://onegoodmove.org/fallacy/exclus.htm
In the "Other resources" section of this blog post, I offered resources which refute atheism and evolution soundly. In the same section, I offered resources on why Christianity and biblical creation belief are true.
Luke, are you willing to have a debate centered around the 15 questions for evolutionists (see: http://creation.com/15-questions )
via a recorded oral debate which would be distributed to tens of thousands of people.
If you are confident in your evolutionary beliefs, please make the necessary arrangements via this free chat room: http://login.meetcheap.com/conference,89538844 You can make the necessary arrangements with the chat room moderators Shockofgod or VivaYehshua. Alternatively, you can email Shockofgod via his YouTube email at http://www.youtube.com/user/shockofgod
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Evolution
ReplyDeleteOK. As an atheist I'm kinda of offended that you think I have little creativity, but fine I don't think you have much either so I'll let that slide. But please do understand that you are lacking a distinctive amount of proof to your argument as much of your proof is out-of-date with current scientific standards concerning evolution. Examples from your link to "Refuting Evolution" are that it does not reference the concept of transitional fossils, DNA sequencing, inaccuracies when concerned with basic scientific facts, and inaccurate information regarding carbon dating from what I can tell, I honestly got tired of reading it at this point. So I would advise that you find more credible people within the field to use as resources as they would more likely be better updated, on top this I would enjoy hearing about how what we known in geology is completely inaccurate regarding the layering of the earths crust to relative age and period of the fossil within.
So the best I may do is to at least reevaluate your evidence and update it properly with experts within their respective fields to actually ensure correctness and avoid these nasty little nagging points that actual scientist or, people as my self, science loving students may make note of as flaws to your argument. A side note to one chapter which was particularly painful to read was that of Chapter 3 that please note it does take a large amount of time to properly discover and analyze possible fossil as to avoid inaccuracy and falsely presented evidence, as with the piltdown man which was highly embarrassing to the scientific community. So if you give us some patients we are working hard to actually fill in these gaps and have done wonderfully in many areas, I would advise you look at some known transition fossils found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils.
Questions
As for answering your questions, literally I'll do that when you catch-up to the current standard otherwise it really is quite meaningless, don't you think?
Also please don't send me to about what 7 and half hours of video for me to ask questions I have free time, but not this much I actually have things to do like coming to understand the world around me through proper experimentation and evaluation.
Atheism
Finally, please learn more about atheism and stop calling us a religion. I can see why people of faith cannot being to conceive of something that is does not exactly mimic their own when it comes to a concern of whether there "is" or "is not" a god or gods, but a little time learning about the concept and you will realize a few facts of this I guess "movement."
1) Atheism is actually scoring record highs
2) More secular countries and state, if you so happen to reside within the United State of America, then to be happier and have lower overall crime rates, though this arguable may be simple correlation without causation.
3) Atheist fall all over the legal spectrum, just so you understand not all of us a 'Democratic Liberal,' I for one am rather insulted to be called that as I'm what is known as the actual Liberal being a Libertarian Anarchical Capitalist, this is another movement which is not as bad as it sounds but I'm afraid would once again require you to do proper research before simply running your mouth.
If you'd like to by pass all of these arguments and revert to Christianity being entirely correct I would suggest starting by proving the bible to be a legitimate account of the past. If you succeed in this endeavor please, I do mean this, contact the Noble Prize organization and every other scientifically credible organization to report your finds for I am absolutely certain it would be astonishing to us all.
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Oh and yes, this was passive aggressive of sorts. Actually I'm kind of sorry about that, but the way in which you treat people who simply present another view point is rather aggravating and this was the best I could to ensure I was at least somewhat polite.
Matt,
DeleteA few points:
1. You wrote:
"As an atheist I'm kinda of offended that you think I have little creativity..."
My response: Being offended is not a sound argument.
2. You wrote:
"...I honestly got tired of reading it at this point."
My response: Your laziness and lack of due diligence is not an argument.
We are very aware that "gut feelings" play a significant role in evolutionary belief. See: http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/02/evolutionary-gut-feelings-belief-in.html
3. You wrote:
"So the best I may do is to at least reevaluate your evidence and update it properly with experts within their respective fields to actually ensure correctness"
My response: The scientific consensus is not a sound argument. Scientific evidence is a better argument. For example, there have been cases where the Bible has been correct and the scientific consensus has been wrong.
See: http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/10/scientific-consensus-and-evolutionary.html
4. See my next response for your comments about atheism.
5. Are you willing to have a debate centered around the 15 questions for evolutionists (see: http://creation.com/15-questions )
via a recorded oral debate which would be distributed to tens of thousands of people.
If you are confident in your evolutionary beliefs, please make the necessary arrangements via this free chat room: http://login.meetcheap.com/conference,89538844 You can make the necessary arrangements with the chat room moderators Shockofgod or VivaYehshua. Alternatively, you can email Shockofgod via his YouTube email at http://www.youtube.com/user/shockofgod
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Matt,
DeleteAddendum:
A few more points:
1. Global atheism is shrinking, See: http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/05/globally-worldviews-of-atheism-and-non.html and http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/resources-on-rise-of-global.html
2. Recently, internet atheism has shrunk. See: http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/decline-of-internet-atheism-articles.html
3. Atheism is a religion. See: http://creation.com/atheism-a-religion and http://www.intelligentdesignnetwork.org/Kitzmiller%27s_error_summary.pdf and http://www.intelligentdesignnetwork.org/Kitzmiller%27s_Error.pdf and http://creation.com/atheism
4. We live in a multivariable world. You haven't shown that other factors are not causing crime and not demonstrating it is theism. In addition, see: The explosion of atheism...in prison at: http://voxday.blogspot.com/2011/06/explosive-growth-of-atheism-in-prison.html
5. Communism at its core was atheistic. Marx said communism begins with atheism. There are some atheist libertarians though. Generally speaking, atheists tend to fall on the left/liberal side.
6. I provided evidence for Christianity. You didn't acknowledge those resources. You are being intellectually lazy.
7. Are you willing to have a debate centered around the 15 questions for evolutionists (see: http://creation.com/15-questions )
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Look people...don't try to reason with these Jesus freaks. Let them waste their meaningless lives on ghosts and stories.
ReplyDeleteAntiJ,
DeleteA few points:
1. There is plenty of sound evidence for Christianity. See:
http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/evidence-for-christianity-websites-and.html
2. It is atheism and evolutionism which offer no objective purpose to their adherents. See: http://creation.com/wm-provine-evolution-=-atheism-no-purpose and http://www.reasonablefaith.org/is-life-absurd-without-god
It is therefore, not surprising that atheists have higher suicide rates that theists. See: http://creation.com/atheism#suicide
3. Are you an atheist? If so, what proof and evidence do you have that atheism is true? You certainly offered no proof and evidence that atheism is true.
4. Are you an evolutionist?
If so, Are you willing to have a debate centered around the 15 questions for evolutionists (see: http://creation.com/15-questions )
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I have a unicorn in my garage that you can't hear, see, smell or taste. Prove that I don't. Until you have proven this to my satisfaction,there will be no future communication with you via this blog until you accept this debate offer and carry through with the debate.
ReplyDeleteYou should probably get some help before you hurt yourself.
Ian,
DeleteA few points:
1. You haven't offered any sound arguments showing how the lack of evidence for existence of unicorns relates to the existence of God. Your "unicorn argument" if you want to call it that is not causing me to want to become an atheist. One of the reasons why global atheism is shrinking is that there is so much evidence for the existence of God and atheists fail to provide proof and evidence that the religion of atheism is true.
See: Evidence for Christianity at: http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/evidence-for-christianity-websites-and.html
See also: Atheism is a religion at: http://creation.com/atheism-a-religion and http://www.intelligentdesignnetwork.org/Kitzmiller%27s_error_summary.pdf
2. What proof and evidence do you have that atheism is true?
3. You are being illogical and practicing the fallacy of exclusion. See: http://onegoodmove.org/fallacy/exclus.htm
In the "Other resources" section of this blog post, I offered resources which refute atheism and evolution soundly. In the same section, I offered resources on why Christianity and biblical creation belief are true.
4. Are you an evolutionist?
If so, Are you willing to have a debate centered around the 15 questions for evolutionists (see: http://creation.com/15-questions )
via a recorded oral debate which would be distributed to tens of thousands of people.
If you are confident in your evolutionary beliefs, please make the necessary arrangements via this free chat room: http://login.meetcheap.com/conference,89538844 You can make the necessary arrangements with the chat room moderators Shockofgod or VivaYehshua. Alternatively, you can email Shockofgod via his YouTube email at http://www.youtube.com/user/shockofgod
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The idea of "god" and the idea of an intangible unicorn are equally unproveable ideas given that they are by nature intangible. How is this not obvious to you? Because of this, it is illogical to simply guess at which deity or thing may be true without consulting any empirical evidence. If something cannot be sensed with the senses, measured by any device, or otherwise derived from observable sources; then the best we can do is offer a theory. While the theory may or may not be true, it is not prudent to live one's life according to a guess which is no more or less likely than another guess. Atheism is not a guess, it is rather the statement that you will not live based on a guess. Atheism simply means that you will entertain theories but not act on them. Also, you may wish to skip your copy-paste challenge as I will not be participating in it. While I have full confidence in my critical thinking skills, I do not have this confidence with public speaking. So thank you in advance for your offer, but you can save yourself a few key strokes if you so desire.
DeleteAzriel,
DeleteA few points:
1. There are lots of intangible things that it is reasonable to believe in the existence of. For example, logic is an intangible. You show a lack of philosophical sophistication in this matter.
Next, you can prove a negative that is intangible. You can show that it is incoherent notion.
Theism is a very coherent concept though. See: http://www.bethinking.org/who-are-you-god/advanced/the-coherence-of-theism-part-1.htm and http://www.bethinking.org/who-are-you-god/advanced/the-coherence-of-theism-part-2.htm
Next, there is an abundance of sound evidence that God and Christianity are true. See: http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/evidence-for-christianity-websites-and.html
2. There are lots of things I believe without having empirical evidence. For example, I believe you are a human who posted this comment and not some other agent. I believe my friends and family have brains even though I have never had this matter empirically tested.
3. You wrote: "Atheism is not a guess, it is rather the statement that you will not live based on a guess. Atheism simply means that you will entertain theories but not act on them."
That is an unsound definition/explanation of what atheism is.
Encyclopedias of philosophy define atheism as the denial of the existence of God. See: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/ and http://creation.com/atheism-is-more-rational and http://www.thedivineconspiracy.org/athart3.htm
You certainly did not provide any proof and evidence for the claim that God does not exist.
4. Are you willing to have a debate centered around the 15 questions for evolutionists (see: http://creation.com/15-questions )
via a recorded oral debate which would be distributed to tens of thousands of people.
If you are confident in your evolutionary beliefs, please make the necessary arrangements via this free chat room: http://login.meetcheap.com/conference,89538844 You can make the necessary arrangements with the chat room moderators Shockofgod or VivaYehshua. Alternatively, you can email Shockofgod via his YouTube email at http://www.youtube.com/user/shockofgod
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You keep asking evolutionists to prove evolution. Prove creation, give me one shred of evidence that this occurred. You cant, that is why its called faith, if you knew, that would be cheating wouldnt it..... you believe, and evolution is a theory that you cannot disprove (a theory remains intact until disproven). Hows this for evolution..... humans over the course of the last 300 years are now 6 inches taller on average. care to explain whats going on there? Did god make people taller now? If so prove it.
ReplyDeleteTim Cook,
DeleteA few points:
1. There is plenty of evidence for creation and against evolutionary belief. See: creation.com/creation-answers
2. You wrote:
"You cant, that is why its called faith"
This statement of yours shows a lack of biblical/theological knowledge. For example, the apostles appealed to being eyewitness of Jesus Christ's resurrection and they appealed to fulfilled prophecy. It was not blind faith. You have a lack of understanding of the Greek word commonly translated faith in the Bible. See: What is faith at http://www.tektonics.org/whatis/whatfaith.html See also: fulfilled prophecy and other evidence for the existence of God at: http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/evidence-for-christianity-websites-and.html
3. Microevolution and macroevolution are not synonmous.
As Dr. Roger Lewin commented after the 1980 University of Chicago conference entitled “Macroevolution”:
“The central question of the Chicago conference was whether the mechanisms underlying microevolution can be extrapolated to explain the phenomena of macroevolution. … At the risk of doing violence to the positions of some of the people at the meeting, the answer can be given as a clear, No.” - Dr. Roger Lewin, “Evolution Theory under Fire,” Science. Vol. 210, 21 November 1980. p. 883-887.
For more information please see: http://www.creationworldview.org/articles_view.asp?id=116
4. We gave you a creation vs. evolution debate offer below. If you are confident in your evolutionary belief, please accept it.
I applaud the quality of satire contained in this blog. It is rare to find something so subtle that so many people mistake it for true idiocy. Bravo, 15 questions for evolutionists, bravo. I eagerly await the next salvo of wit directed at the intellectually stunted, inquisitively impaired group of people (and I use the term loosely) known as young earth creationists.
ReplyDeleteEnough of that, anyway.
I would encourage you to learn the meaning of the word "metaphor", in relation to Ian's post, though I suppose that would do little to help given your obviously inadequate thinking skills. His incredible claim of having a unicorn in his garage is comparable to your incredible claim of an invisible, omniscient being, because there is evidence for neither. He is not saying there is no god, just that there is no evidence and that is why he does not believe your claim. I am sure this is the same reason you do not believe he has a unicorn in his garage. No evidence = no reason to believe.
This is easily refuted by you, however, due to what you consider evidence for god. Please examine your evidence, and try to come up with an answer as to why your evidence could not also be considered evidence for the existence of Ian's unicorn. Please do not use the bible as an example, as I have a book in my possession detailing the works and life of Ian's unicorn (I don't, but I hope you aren't too dense to understand my point).
Addressing your comment 2, requesting evidence that atheism is true: Simple answer, atheism cannot be proven true, for the same reason you cannot prove there is no invisible unicorn in Ian's garage. It is unprovable.
Atheism is a logical conclusion drawn from the lack of scientifically credible evidence for god's existence. You are the one making a claim of the supernatural, it is up to you to prove it.
I will provide for you another metaphor, I know we have had little luck in the past with them but bear with me. I will put in brackets what I am comparing to, in an attempt to help you to understand.
I (you) claim to be able to fly (a god exists). Someone I (you) know, doesn't believe me (you). If I (you) want to be believed, it is up to me (you) to provide the evidence I can fly (that god exists). I doubt "evidence" from a 2000 year old book would satisfy our mutual, hypothetical friend, assuming he is not a christian and possesses basic reasoning skills. He would want something a little more empirical. Can you provide empirical evidence of god's existence? No, and this is why atheists are atheists, and also why you don't believe in Ian's unicorn.
I'm quite bored of writing now, and I apologize for lacking the massive eloquence and intellect required to educate you of, well, pretty basic logic and critical thinking skills, as I am sure I will receive a reply similar to everyone else, that is, one written by a complete idiot. I liked this one in particular:
"1. You wrote:
"As an atheist I'm kinda of offended that you think I have little creativity..."
My response: Being offended is not a sound argument."
Him saying he is offended is not meant to be taken as a sound argument, or an argument at all, and you are a fool for thinking him foolish enough to intend it that way. Just kidding, you knew he didn't mean it as an argument but rather wanted other christians to point and laugh "Hurr durr look at the butthurt evolutionist idiot".
Condescending, idiotic jackasses such as yourself can be so incredibly amusing, but your intellectual dishonesty and childishness are the most frustrating thing ever encountered.
I pray you will someday stop being such a dimwit because that's gonna do about as much good as trying to explain anything to you, but it will take up a lot less of my time.
It's up to you, dumbass. I hope your life is filled with people less cunty and stupid than you, cos that's just how nice I am.
Kevin,
DeleteA few points:
1. Re: supposed satire
Appeal to ridicule is a logical fallacy. It is not being clever. It is being illogical.
2. re: alleged inadequate thinking skills
Ad hominem (attack the man) is another logical fallacy. You have shown yourself to be illogical once again.
3. You wrote:
"Atheism is a logical conclusion drawn from the lack of scientifically credible evidence for god's existence."
This shows a lack of sophistication when it comes to evidence. There are multiple forms of evidence in the world when deciding various matter including the existence of God - not just scientific evidence. For example, there is historical evidence, testimonial evidence, circumstancial evidence, etc. Also, arguments for God also include fulfilled prophecy, etc. See: Fulfilled prophecy arguments for the Bible and various other forms of evidence and arguments for Christianity at: http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/evidence-for-christianity-websites-and.html
Furthermore, your claim is self-refuting. The claim that we should only hold to what is scientifically shown itself to be true through scientific evidence, is a claim you did not scientifically prove.
4. You wrote:
"I doubt "evidence" from a 2000 year old book would satisfy our mutual, hypothetical friend, assuming he is not a christian and possesses basic reasoning skills."
It is ironic you mentioned thinking skills. The reason I say this is appeal to novelty is also a logical fallacy.
See: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-novelty.html
Once again you are being illogical.
5. Are you willing to have a debate centered around the 15 questions for evolutionists (see: http://creation.com/15-questions )
via a recorded oral debate which would be distributed to tens of thousands of people.
If you are confident in your evolutionary beliefs, please make the necessary arrangements via this free chat room: http://login.meetcheap.com/conference,89538844 You can make the necessary arrangements with the chat room moderators Shockofgod or VivaYehshua. Alternatively, you can email Shockofgod via his YouTube email at http://www.youtube.com/user/shockofgod
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Oh in addition. the theory of exclusion is not relevant in this discussion. Occam's razor is, though. A man made creation of god is a rather complex theory that at one stage in history probably made things simpler for man to understand. With science now explaining a lot of what was once thought miracle, witch craft or divine intervention. the burden of proof has shifted and as such the existence of god is no longer the simplest explanation of our existence. With the Universe being as vast as it is the conditions being right on one planet in one solar system in a galaxy of 100 billion stars with trillions of planets in a universe of 100 billion galaxies for life to happen by chance on one of them doesn't seem at all far fetched. It certainly seems more likely than one mystical being creating the entirety of existence.
ReplyDeleteTim,
DeleteA few points
1. re: Occam's razor
First of all, encyclopedias of philosophy define atheism as the denial of the existence of God. See: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/ and http://creation.com/atheism-is-more-rational and http://www.thedivineconspiracy.org/athart3.htm
You certainly did not provide any proof and evidence for the claim that God does not exist.
Next, you are overly simplifying things because Western atheism has associated ideology with it such as Darwinism, abiogenesis, atheistic variations of Big Bang
cosmology. None of which are credible. See: creation.com/creation-answers
As a side note, although William of Ockham may not have originated Occam's razor he was a theist and not an atheist.
2. Something happening "by chance". This shows a lack of depth of philosophy on your part in terms of understanding causation. Chance is not a causal agent. A coin may have a 50% of landing heads, but chance does not cause it to land on heads. Other things do such as a person throwing it up in the air, wind speed, etc.
3. You are engaging in the fallacy of exclusion as you did not address the multiple forms of evidence which I gave for the existence of God. See: http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/evidence-for-christianity-websites-and.html
4. The fine tuning argument for life, etc. is a strong argument for the existence of God and your offered no alternative explanation that is stronger. See: http://creation.com/the-universe-is-finely-tuned-for-life
5. Are you willing to have a debate centered around the 15 questions for evolutionists (see: http://creation.com/15-questions )
via a recorded oral debate which would be distributed to tens of thousands of people.
If you are confident in your evolutionary beliefs, please make the necessary arrangements via this free chat room: http://login.meetcheap.com/conference,89538844 You can make the necessary arrangements with the chat room moderators Shockofgod or VivaYehshua. Alternatively, you can email Shockofgod via his YouTube email at http://www.youtube.com/user/shockofgod
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