Once again, biblical creationists retain the moral high ground and another evolutionists suffers a humbling defeat trying to ascend this well defended position. If only the evolutionists could answer the 15 questions for evolutionists and rebut the abundant evidence for biblical creation.
Specifically, on November 26, 2012, we published an article entitled An evolutionist whines about the inevitable total victory of creationists over Darwinism which is coming
An evolutionist who goes by the name Cason White wrote in response to that article:
i feel like you are being too hard on all of these people.... treating evolutionists like scum is not a good way to convert them. And it definitely does not help that you throw down the gauntlet and prevent them from replying until they do an oral debate... i mean, come on, really? maybe you should actually be polite and less people would post on here with angry thoughts... just some advice...
Also, notice he says "feel" above without showing his complaint has merit. Of course, this is not surprising since belief in evolution boils down to a "gut feeling". Evolutionism certainly does not rest on sound evidence.
Our response to Cason White
Behold, our response Cason White:
Cason White,Question Evolution! Campaign resources and other resources:
A few points:
1. Given the heavy handed tactics of evolutionists and the power of the state that evolutionist use to indoctrinate public school children, evolutionists are hardly on the moral high ground. See: Slaughter of the Dissidents and New Movie Exposes the persecution of anti-Darwnists and Evolutionists are indoctination children
In addition, there is the issue of evolutionary racism and violence. See: Evolutionary belief and communism/Nazism
So evolutionists are more likely to treat people like scum. There are plenty of Christian charities, but no Darwinist charities that I am aware of. In fact, social Darwinism belittled charitableness. See: Herbert Spencer: The Father of Social Darwinism
2. You didn't demonstrate your allegation that all evolutionists are treated like scum at this blog rather than treated differently depending on their comments. Please refrain from making unsupported allegations.
3. We know that evolutionism is not ground on sound evidence, but rather on indoctrination, "gut feelings" and very often insincere bluffing and that is why leading evolutionists no longer widely debate (before they lost debate after debate). See: Belief in evolution boils down to a "gut feeling" and Creation scientists tend to win the debates
4. Evolutionism is contrary to the available evidence. See: Creation vs. evolution answers
5. Are you willing to have a debate centered around the 15 questions for evolutionists (see: 15 questions for evolutionists )
via a recorded oral debate which would be distributed to tens of thousands of people.
If you are confident in your evolutionary beliefs, please make the necessary arrangements via this free chat room: Shockofgod's free chat room You can make the necessary arrangements with the chat room moderators Shockofgod or VivaYehshua. Alternatively, you can email Shockofgod via his YouTube email at Shockofgod's YouTube account
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Question Evolution! Campaign
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Responses to the 15 Questions: part 1 - Questions 1-3
Responses to the 15 Questions: part 2 - Questions 4–8
Responses to the 15 Questions: part 2 - Questions 9-15
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Evidence for Christianity
15 Questions Evolutionists STILL can't answer!
We have been using the debate challenge at "The Question Evolution Project" on Facebook and in occasional comment replies to other posts. The same lame excuses that you see are used there. (In fact, I was just interrupted during this comment and used the challenge again.)
ReplyDeleteSo often, evolutionists will use prejudicial conjecture and arbitrary assertions that are nothing more than faith statements, seriously flawed in logic. When obstreperous trolls get banned, they are predictable in their responses. I made this "meme". Since then, several have lived up (down?) to it.
Ok, so here are my answers the 15 questions.
ReplyDelete1. Redundant because Evolution does not deal with abiogenesis, the origin of life, only with the origin on the diversity of life.
2. Redundant
3. Because every individual that has reproduced has the chance of being mutated, as does the reproduction. These mutations pile on over millions of years over billions of individuals, creating the diversity of DNA presently.
4. Because that is what Evolution is. Evolution does not equate to abiogenesis.
5. Depending on which systems are being referenced, it could be many things. For example, singe celled organisms probably assimilated other cells into themselves which eventually created a symbiotic relationship between them until they became one single cell together and evolved from that point.
6. The reason pottery is seen as being made by people is that there are no natural processes that create pottery and there are no other instances of the creation of pottery outside of human creation of said pottery. This is not seen in the beginning of life.
7. See my example in #4.
8. It originated in the positive consequences of diversity that were created through the sexual reproductive process.
9. They are not missing.
10. Because their current state is better than what one step away from it would be, making them unable to reach a survivable standard that could be hundreds of steps away. They are supremely adapted to their environment.
11. Evolution created the brain which in was capable of creating those concepts and principles.
12. (Since the real question is implied in the explanation, i'll address that.) Behavior is dictated by evolution. A carnivore will not eat grass because evolution didn't result in that being a digestible food source. The behavior of eating grass isn't profitable in any way, therefore it isn't propagated.
13. Evolution is in itself a scientific breakthrough. It contributes to scientific discovery of the past and speculation of the future or hypothetical situations, it alone doesn't create any breakthroughs.
14. Evolution as an explanation of history only deals with history, yes. Evolution as the backdrop of all modern biology is taught as science because it relates completely with science.
15. Because it isn't a religious idea and it does explain the evidence. I would also like to point out that Ruse never made the statement shown in the question's explanation, it seems to be quote mined.
Please send me a message at a later time if you want citations, It's about 3 AM and I need some sleep. Cheers.
Topyka,
DeleteI don't know why you bothered giving such junk "answers". It was a total waste of time.
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you know guys, I'm Christian... I just said to go easier on people and maybe they would listen instead of posting angry stuff... this is silly....
ReplyDeleteCason White,
DeleteA few points:
1. You still have not demonstrated your allegation that all evolutionists are treated like scum at this blog rather than treated differently depending on their comments. Please refrain from making unsupported allegations.
2. Are you an evolutionist?
3. If you are an evolutionist, are you willing to have a debate centered around the 15 questions for evolutionists (see: http://creation.com/15-questions )
via a recorded oral debate which would be distributed to tens of thousands of people.
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If you are an evolutionists, there will be no future communication with you via this blog until you accept this debate offer and carry through with the debate.
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DeleteCason White,
DeleteI asked you a simple question. Are you an evolutionist? There must be some reason you are being evasive and not answering this question. What is it? Your evasiveness would seem to indicate that you are an evolutionist.
Furthermore, you still have not provided evidence that all evolutionists are treated like scum at this blog rather than treated differently depending on their various comments.
His reply was in response to mine. After you refused to answer my single question: If you do achieve a "total victory" against Darwinism, how will you explain creationism to people whose religion and/or personal beliefs contradict the idea of a creator? (Atheists, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.) I am still waiting for a reply to this, and by the way, I have given my word that if you can answer this question, I have given my word that I will answer all 15 of your questions with the knowledge that my born-and-raised Christian mind has regarding how evolution can be an answer. However, if you can't answer this question, then I will assume that you have no moral or scientific backing, and the real reason you want to do this is because you want to force your views onto everyone else, which I guess is fine if you're the leader of an authoritarian regime. After all, Hitler was trying to force his Christian (not Atheist) views on the German population, much how you are trying to force creation on the world. However, if you can't answer that question and aren't the leader of an authoritarian regime, I would kindly ask you to stop trying so hard to force your beliefs on others. Please answer my single question with an answer other than, "Because I/The Bible/God say(s)..." and I'll answer your 15.
ReplyDeleteJacob Fisher
P.S. Do try to spell my name correctly this time.
Jacob Fisher,
DeleteA few points:
1. Are you an atheist? If so, what proof and evidence do you have that atheism is true?
2. There are multiple forms of compelling evidence pointing to a creator and Christianity being true and this can be shown to people such as atheists, Hindus, etc. See: http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/09/evidence-for-christianity-websites-and.html
3. Are you willing to have a debate centered around the 15 questions for evolutionists (see: http://creation.com/15-questions )
via a recorded oral debate which would be distributed to tens of thousands of people.
If you are confident in your evolutionary beliefs, please make the necessary arrangements via this free chat room: http://login.meetcheap.com/conference,89538844 You can make the necessary arrangements with the chat room moderators Shockofgod or VivaYehshua. Alternatively, you can email Shockofgod via his YouTube email at http://www.youtube.com/user/shockofgod
If you want to know more about the debate, any and all questions should be directed to Shockofgod or VivaYehshua
There will be no future communication with you via this blog until you accept this debate offer and carry through with the debate.
I fail to see the harm in believing in evolution or creationism. Why do creationists and evolutionists have to clash over this matter? Creationists: Jesus wasn't fighting about evolution or creationism. He was busy teaching about forgiveness, love, acceptance, mercy, etc. Is it a sin to believe in evolution? If so, will evolutionists go to hell for one belief? Instead of focusing on creation and evolution, they should focus on Christ's teachings. Evolutionists: It's okay for some people to believe in creationism, but creationists shouldn't attack you about the belief. In several generations, what happens if somebody finds evidence of something that disproves creationism and evolutionism? It could happen. Creationists and Evolutionists should stop fighting over this matter.
ReplyDeleteAustin,
DeleteA few points:
1. If creation is not important, then why does the first book of the Bible mention it right at the beginning?
2. If Adam and Eve are not important, then why are they mentioned multiple times in the New Testament?
3. Jesus alludes to Adam and Eve in his teaching about marriage and divorce in Matthew 19:1-9. Jesus also mentioned the biblical flood which creationist often refer to.
4. Here is why creation vs. evolution is important: http://creation.com/whats-this-all-about
5. Here is why theistic evolutionism is destructive and perverts biblical doctrine: http://creation.com/10-dangers-of-theistic-evolution
6. Evolutionism is responsible for the death of many people and has created uncharitableness in history: http://creation.com/communism-and-nazism-questions-and-answers and http://creation.com/herbert-spencer
7. Research indicates that evolutionism causes a decline in morality: http://creation.com/morals-decline-linked-to-belief-in-evolution
8. Evolutionism has already been shown to be without merit and the evidence supports biblical creation. We don't have to wait for it to happen in the future. See: creation.com/creation-answers and creation.com/15-questions
9. Austin, are you denying that evolution has already been conclusively shown to be in error?
If so, are you willing to have a debate centered around the 15 questions for evolutionists (see: http://creation.com/15-questions )
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1) Because the universe must have been created, and where better to start than with the beginning. Most cultures and religions had their own creation story.
ReplyDelete2) Because the people who Jesus preached to believed in Adam and Eve. If he had said something against the creation story, that would have been very blasphemous, and he might have been crucified earlier.
3) Remember, Jesus couldn't say everything directly, or else he would have been accused of blasphemy and put to death at a different time. Also, Adam and Eve and the flood weren't the core of his teachings. Jesus preached about loving one's enemies and praying for them. He wasn't going around saying evolutionists were damned for all time. He was saying that if you believed in HIM, that your sins were forgiven. And Jesus is God, and God is love.
4)/5) Still, despite if evolution or creationism happened, God would know the outcome since he's omnipresent. He could have controlled evolution. He could have created the world as it is in Genesis. Oh, i just thought of a question! If God is omnipotent, why did he need to rest on the 7 day? If he was everywhere and at every time, why didn't he just skip the day? Couldn't he just skip to the end of time? Just a couple questions. They probably sound crazy to you though...
Genesis 1:
{2:2} "And on the seventh day God
ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the
seventh day from all his work which he had made. {2:3}
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because
that in it he had rested from all his work which God created
and made."
6) Creationism and Christianity are responsible for thousands of death (i.e.Crusades, Inquisition, etc.) Actually most religions and belief systems have caused deaths. Many creationists probably killed evolutionists. Some Evolutionists could have killed Creationists too.
7) It very well could have declined morality._ in the eyes of Christians. Everyone has a different sense of morality. Nobody should have the same exact sense of morality.
8) I'm sure there's some evidence that points to creationism, but a majority points to evolution.
9) What I'm saying is that some new idea could come along in the future and destroy both ideas of creationism and evolution. For example, most people believed that the earth was flat until a matter of centuries ago. The idea that earth is round contradicted what the common people believed, and most people didn't like it because they had believed in the truth they had been taught and knew, which was that the earth was flat. Most people have believe in creationism or evolution. What I'm trying to say is that there could be a new idea that comes along and disproves both. I believe in evolution, and don't think its in error, but there's always some possibility that I could be wrong. You believe in creationism, but you could be wrong. There's always some chance we could all be wrong. All our beliefs come down to how we view the world and them.
P.S. John {4:16} And we have known and believed the love that
God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love
dwelleth in God, and God in him.
So technically, everyone who loves, dwells in God. An Atheist could love another, and dwell in God unknowingly. There also isn't one right way to love others, so not everyone has to be a Christian. So, instead of fighting each other over who's ideas are better, we should all get along and love each other. That way, we would all dwell in God and Christ. It seems like a good way to end conflict and create a loving world.
Austin Fischer,
DeleteI notice you did not accept our debate offer which gave you the opportunity to disseminate your views to tens of thousands of people.
I don't believe you are confident in your purported views. We both know why this is the case. The evidence is for biblical creation and not for evolutionism. See: creation.com/creation-answers
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