Tuesday, December 18, 2012

In London 40% of residents are not evolutionists. It is just a matter of time before Darwinism fades away in the UK


Due to ethnic and religious pluralism, 40% of people in London, England are not evolutionists (according to polling data published in September of 2012. Note this includes creationists, intelligent design proponents and undecideds). In 2006, the BBC reported: "Furthermore, more than 40% of those questioned believe that creationism or intelligent design (ID) should be taught in school science lessons."

Given the lack of evidential support for evolutionary belief and the substantial evidential support for biblical creation belief, it is just a matter of time before Darwinism is ground down by UK creationists and evolutionism fades away in the UK. Currently, evangelical Christianity is growing in the UK. See: UK evangelical Christianity and biblical creationism (please read the article if you are unfamiliar with evangelical Christianity).

In 2013, our Question Evolution! Campaign wishes to  help spread the 15 questions for evolutionists in the UK.  Although we will endeavor to spread the campaign in London, there are definitely places to spread the campaign in the UK where will get initial momentum. See:  Making 2013 be the WORST year in the history of Darwinism.and  Making 2013 be the WORST year in the history of Darwinism. - Part 2

The pro-evolutionism website Wikipedia declares:
Scotland

In Scotland the Highlands and Islands are a stronghold of Christianity, both in the Church of Scotland and in smaller Presbyterian denominations such as the Free Church of Scotland. However, neither region is referred to as a 'Bible belt'.

Northern Ireland

In Northern Ireland, the County Antrim area stretching from roughly Portrush to Larne and centered in the area of Ballymena is often referred to as a Bible Belt. This is because the area is heavily Protestant with a large evangelical community. From 1970 to 2010, the MP for North Antrim was Ian Paisley, a Free Presbyterian minister well known for his theological fundamentalism. The town of Ballymena, the largest town in the constituency, is often referred to as the "buckle" of the Bible Belt.
For more information please read:

Biblical Christianity is rising in the UK. Demographic data points to upcoming reversal of secularism in the UK. No English speaking country will be safe for Darwinism

UK: The rise of evangelicalism is shaking up the established church

Immigrants strengthen Christianity in the UK

Polling data on Briton and creationism

Effects of religious immigration on the Western World

England is the motherland of Darwinism and atheists tend to be the most vocal defenders of evolutionary belief.

Eric Kaufmann, a professor at Birkbeck, University of London, using a multitude of demographic studies argues in an academic paper entitled Shall the Righteous Inherit the Earth? Demography and Politics in the Twenty-First Century the decline of atheism in terms of its global adherents is an established trend that will persist for the foreseeable future and the rate of decline will accelerate. In the Western World, due to immigration and the higher birth rates of religious people, Kaufman writes: "Committed religious populations are growing in the West, and will reverse the march of secularism before 2050."

Recent trends in Europe as far as biblical Christianity

Professor Eric Kaufmann wrote:
...a major source of conservative religious growth in Europe is immigration.The main flows involve Muslims, from the Middle East (especially North Africa) and South Asia, and Christians, largely hailing from Africa, parts of Asia, Latin America and the West Indies. West Europe’s population of non-European extraction is projected to triple between now and 2050, from roughly 4-5 percent to 12-15 percent, reaching as high as 25 percent in societies like Holland, France and Britain. (Coleman 2006) Few of these newcomers will be secular. Perhaps 60 percent will be Muslim, who, as we shall see, show few signs of secularisation. (Jackson, Howe et al. 2008: 123) But religious immigration goes beyond Islam to encompass Christianity, which is reaping a demographic dividend nearly as impressive. In England, more Muslims attend mosque on a weekly basis than Anglicans attend church, but Christianity is hardly stagnant: 58 percent of London’s practicing Christians are nonwhite. (Islamonline 2005) The Global South is today’s engine of world Christianity, symbolized by the appointment of Ugandan-born John Sentamu as Anglican Archbishop of York in 2005. At the epicenter of global southern Christianity stands Pentecostalism, its most exuberant, fast-growing form. A quarter of the world’s Christians are now believed to be Pentecostals, with most of the past half-century’s growth taking place through conversion among Catholics in Latin America, Animists in Africa and Buddhists or secularists in East Asia. (Jenkins 2007; (Martin 2001; World Christian Database 2008).

The urban church is essentially an immigrant church in Britain, but this is also
becoming true elsewhere in Europe. In France, evangelical Protestants have swelled from 50 to 400 thousand inside 50 years, chiefly because of immigration. Even Catholicism and mainline Protestantism benefit... In Europe as a whole (including Russia), pentecostals and charismatics have exploded in numbers, expanding in step with Islam. Currently there are more evangelical Christians than Muslims in Europe. (Jenkins 2007: 75) In Eastern Europe, as outside the western world, Pentecostalism is a sociological and not a demographic phenomenon. In Western Europe, by contrast, demography is central to evangelicalism’s growth, especially in urban areas. Alas, immigration brings two foreign imports, Islam and Christianity, to secular Europe.

The combined impact of native religious fertility and religious immigration will
be to re-sacralise Europe. Its seemingly inevitable march toward secularism may one day come to be seen as an interregnum between its historic piety and multi-faith future. Projections which combine data on immigration, age structure, religious switching and fertility are instructive. We have performed these unprecedented analyses on several cases. Austria offers us a window into what the future holds. Its census question on religious affiliation permits us to perform cohort component projections, which show the secular population plateauing by 2050, or as early as 2021 if secularism fails to attract lapsed Christians and new Muslim immigrants at the same rate as it has in the past. (Goujon, Skirbekk et al. 2006)...

Overall, religious-secular fertility differences and a slowing of Christian secularisation mean that immigration will lead to a more religious western Europe over the course of the twenty first century.
Professor Eric Kaufman also wrote:
What of European Christianity? The conventional wisdom holds it to be in free
fall, especially in Western Europe. (Bruce 2002) This is undoubtedly correct for Catholic Europe, while Protestant Europe already has low levels of religious practice. Yet closer scrutiny reveals an increasingly lively and demographically growing Christian remnant. Several studies have examined the connection between religiosity - whether defined as attendance, belief or affiliation - and fertility in Europe. Most find a statistically significant effect even when controlling for age, education, income, marital status and other factors...

Moving to the wider spectrum of European Christianity, we find that fertility is indeed much higher among European women who are religious...

Today, most of those who remain religious in Europe wear their beliefs lightly, but conservative Christianity is hardly a spent force. Data on conservative Christians is difficult to come by since many new churches keep few official records. Reports from the World Christian Database, which meticulously tracks reports from church bodies, indicates that 4.1 percent of Europeans (including Russians) were evangelical Christians in 2005. This figure rises to 4.9 percent in northern, western and southern Europe. Most religious conservatives are charismatics, working within mainstream denominations like Catholicism or Lutheranism to ‘renew’ the faith along more conservative lines. There is also an important minority of Pentecostals, who account for .5% of Europe’s population. Together, charismatics and Pentecostals account for close to 5 % of Europe’s population. The proportion of conservative Christians has been rising, however: some estimate that the trajectory of conservative Christian growth has outpaced that of Islam in Europe. (Jenkins 2007: 75).

In many European countries, the proportion of conservative Christians is close to
the number who are recorded as attending church weekly. This would suggest an
increasingly devout Christian remnant is emerging in western Europe which is more
resistant to secularization. This shows up in France, Britain and Scandinavia (less
Finland), the most secular countries where we have 1981, 1990 and 2000 EVS and 2004
ESS data on religiosity...

Currently there are more evangelical Christians than Muslims in Europe. (Jenkins 2007: 75) In Eastern Europe, as outside the western world, Pentecostalism is a sociological and not a demographic phenomenon. In Western Europe, by contrast, demography is central to evangelicalism’s growth, especially in urban areas. Alas, immigration brings two foreign imports, Islam and Christianity, to secular Europe.
Related articles

A collection of our articles on European creationism

UK and biblical creationism

The future of European Darwinism and atheism is bleak

Social unrest in Europe altering its religious landscape

Secularism vs. secularism - Biblical Christianity wins! Will postmodernism help bring about the defeat of Darwinism and atheism?

Creation Ministries International website resources
 
Creation Ministries International website

Creation vs. evolution answers

Question Evolution! Campaign

15 questions for evolutionists

Responses to the 15 Questions: part 1 - Questions 1-3

Responses to the 15 Questions: part 2 - Questions 4–8

Responses to the 15 Questions: part 2 - Questions 9-15

Refuting evolution

Evidence for Christianity


Decline of atheism video



15 questions evolutionist STILL cannot answer!



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16 comments:

  1. Eh? I live in London and frequent all areas (I work in delivery). Hardly anyone is a Creationist. Many are Christian, but don't practice it.
    If you just get out and talk to people you'd realise that polls and statistics mean nothing and are usually wrong.

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    1. Ned,

      I have never had a delivery man ask if I am a creationist. I am going to trust the social science polling and demographic researchers and not trust your opinion on this matter. For example, I cited this polling data http://www.angus-reid.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/2012.09.05_CreEvo.pdf and I cited the scholarship of the demographic research Professor Eric Kaufmann. In addition, I know that Scotland and Northern Ireland have biblical Christianity strongholds.

      Also, I know the ethnic churches are growing through news reporters. See: http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/03/biblical-christianity-is-rising-in-uk.html

      Bottom line: I have provided the social science evidence and news stories and you haven't. Of course, this is ironic since Darwinists pretend science and history is on their side.

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  2. I live in County Antrim, Northern Ireland and I can guarantee that no one considers Portrush to Larne to be a Bible belt (where is your information coming from?). Also, Ian paisley is not a Christian but rather a paramilitary Loyalist, they are very different things. You clearly have little to no knowledge of Northern Ireland's political and religious history, here protestants and Catholics throw bricks and petrol bombs better than they pray.

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    1. Timothy McCann,

      The guarantees of evolutionists are not something I can take to the bank. I need proof and evidence.

      I cited my source so why are you asking me to cite the source? This tells me that you are a sloppy reader and not diligent.

      Third, setting aside his politics, Ian Paisley is a fundamentalist. Fundamentalists are creationists. The Bible belt article excerpt I cited is correct. You are being needlessly contentious about this matter. By the way, the Guardian refers to the geographic area where Paisley is located as the buckle of a Bible belt area: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2001/feb/17/drugsandalcohol.rosiecowan

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  3. One small flaw in your master plan: evolution is (correctly) taught as fact in all UK schools. The majority of UK Christians accept the scientific consensus on evolution and see no conflict with their faith. The British, on the whole, seem to have no difficulty with accepting the Biblical creation narrative as allegorical.

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    1. Guy,

      A few points:

      1. You relying on consensus so heavily shows you have a weak argument evidentially. See: http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/10/scientific-consensus-and-evolutionary.html And there have been cases where the Bible has been correct and the scientific consensus in error.

      2. There have been cases in history where society advocated something for a very long time and then abruptly stopped doing it. Foot binding was practiced in China for about a thousand years and then it ended in a single generation. See: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/24/magazine/24FOB-Footbinding-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

      3. You wrote:

      "The British, on the whole, seem to have no difficulty with accepting the Biblical creation narrative as allegorical."

      You are being illogical. You are practicing the fallacy of argument by assertion.

      For example, in 2006, the BBC reported:

      "Furthermore, more than 40% of those questioned believe that creationism or intelligent design (ID) should be taught in school science lessons." See: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4648598.stm

      4. Having something taught as fact does not mean it is fact. Just to be clear, are you saying that when creationism was taught as fact in UK schools that it was fact (I do believe that biblical creation occurred)?

      5. Are you willing to have a debate centered around the 15 questions for evolutionists (see: http://creation.com/15-questions )
      via a recorded oral debate which would be distributed to tens of thousands of people.

      If you are confident in your evolutionary beliefs, please make the necessary arrangements via this free chat room: http://login.meetcheap.com/conference,89538844 You can make the necessary arrangements with the chat room moderators Shockofgod or VivaYehshua. Alternatively, you can email Shockofgod via his YouTube email at http://www.youtube.com/user/shockofgod

      If you want to know more about the debate, any and all questions should be directed to Shockofgod or VivaYehshua

      There will be no future communication with you via this blog until you accept this debate offer and carry through with the debate.

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  4. I fail to see where I stated that I am an evolutionist.
    I looked at the cited sources but only one of them was anything to do with Northern Ireland - this also happened to be the Wikipedia source which, had you looked at its citation, you would realise the information is from an article about a small number of protestants helping the community and is nothing about a Northern Irish Bible belt.
    I was also very surprised at your citing from Wikipedia, based on the reputation you've given it.
    And finally, the article in the Guardian is about a severe increase in drug use in Ballymena, and only mentions the Bible belt once in the whole article.

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    1. Timothy McCann,

      You wrote:

      "I fail to see where I stated that I am an evolutionist."

      Are you an evolutionist?

      If so, are you willing to have a debate centered around the 15 questions for evolutionists (see: http://creation.com/15-questions )
      via a recorded oral debate which would be distributed to tens of thousands of people.

      If you are an evolutionist and are confident in your evolutionary beliefs, please make the necessary arrangements via this free chat room: http://login.meetcheap.com/conference,89538844 You can make the necessary arrangements with the chat room moderators Shockofgod or VivaYehshua. Alternatively, you can email Shockofgod via his YouTube email at http://www.youtube.com/user/shockofgod

      If you want to know more about the debate, any and all questions should be directed to Shockofgod or VivaYehshua

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  5. Sorry, I also meant to mention that the fact that Ian Paisley is a fundamentalist means very little seeing as he is a sectarian loyalist, not a trusted member of the Christian community of Northern Ireland.

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    1. Timothy,

      You haven't convinced me that the area in question is not a Bible belt. You certainly offered no evidence to the contrary.

      On the other hand, the Guardian refers to the geographic area where Paisley is located as the buckle of a Bible belt area: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2001/feb/17/drugsandalcohol.rosiecowan

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    2. It's true that I offered no evidence contrary to the statements in the blog, but equally neither were any of the citations and sources in anyway credible - as I already outlined.

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    3. Timothy McCann,

      Two things:

      1. The Guardian and I don't agree on a lot things, but they are a prominent British news organization they do confirm that a Bible Belt in the UK exists. Your feeble objection was that the Guardian article only refers to an area as being a Bible Belt once. Why does the Guardian mentioning it merely once in an article not count? Is this there some rule I am not aware of? You are being very illogical and unreasonable.

      2. Second, the cat seems to have got your tongue on whether or not you are an evolutionist. Given the shamefulness of evolutionism and the fact that you cannot defend it, this is not entirely surprising. Nevertheless, until you accept this debate offer, there will be no further communication with you.

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    4. If the guardian is so credible then why does it frequently post articles about evolution and the big bang stating them as fact, e.g.: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/nov/15/stone-spear-early-human-species
      As far as my personal view on evolution I fail to see how they are relevant here, at no point did I claim that your views on evolution were true or false only that your information regarding northern Irish religion was very badly sourced. (I also have made contact with shock of god)

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    5. You also are yet to address the fact that the only link in the blog itself was from wikipedia, which did not reference the source accurately

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    6. Timothy McCann,

      I would think a British leftist newspaper like the Guardian would know if there is a (or more for the matter) a Bible Belt in the UK.

      Second, I think you an evolutionists who is wasting my time with trivial complaints. Unless you indicate whether or not you are an evolutionist and agree to accept the debate offer given if you are an evolutionist, I see little reason why I should continue to post your blog comments on this matter.

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    7. I prefer to think of myself as more of a scientist, and at this point in time evolution is a very good theory as to how complex organisms came into being from single celled organisms. I never claimed that you were wrong in your creationist belief however, just that a part of this blog post is very flawed, which you still haven't defended or addressed, you only gave me another source which was an article from almost 12 years ago about increased illicit drug use in Ballymena.

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